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ISAF-RSD has just posted the latest class rule interpretation.
www.radiosailing.org

The interpretation is an administrative clarification confirming that previously measured rigs and sails can be transferred to a newly registered hull without any need for re-measurement.

Interpretation 2005-IOM-1 wrote:An owner may seek registration and certification of a hull which is to be used with previously measured rig(s) and there is no need to re-measure and re-submit a Rig Measurement Form(s) if such form(s) has/have been previously accepted by the Certification Authority.

The NCA for GBR / MYA would like to request further clarification on the submission of rig measurement forms with a new hull measurement form and in particular, on the specific meaning of sections of Interpretation 2005-IOM-1.

This request is submitted via a pdf file which can be downloaded from the following page on the NCA for GBR section of the MYA web site:

http://mya-uk.org.uk/iom-nca-gbr/2005/D ... efault.htm

The above web page also holds information on various discussions and submissions on the topic from December 2002 through to November 2004.

Hi Richard

You seem to have submitted GBR requests to the IOM Forum for discussion. No problem there, of course, I'm sure the Forum members will be only too happy to let you have their comments. But if you'd like the Technical or the Measurement Committee to look at them, could I suggest you submit them to VC Technical or VC Measurement when you're ready?

Might be worth adding this detail to the list of chronology on the MYA Web site, quoted from the IOMICA Web site (News archive) at http://iomclass.org/news.htm.

30 Sep 2004 Advice from the IOMICA Measurement Sub-Committee regarding the certification of an IOM hull.

Class Rules
According to the current IOM Class Rules, where an Owner seeks registration and certification of a hull which is to be used with previously measured rig(s), there is no need to re-measure and re-submit a Measurement Form in respect of such rig(s) if the rig's/rigs' Measurement Form has/have previously been accepted by the Certification Authority.

Comment
The intent of the IOM class is to offer accessible radio sailing in an International class at moderate cost. An IOM Owner takes all responsibility for racing an IOM within the class rules. With these principles in mind, it is only necessary for an Owner to request his or her Certification Authority to transfer an existing Measurement Form to the new hull Certificate.

Lester

This seems the appropriate place to make the posting as the posting is directly related to Interpretation 2005-IOM-1.

I trust that the VC Technical and/or VC Measurement will respond in due course (perhaps even to advise that this topic should be moved into another location on the forum).

As requested, I have added the 30-09-2004 news item from the IOMICA web to the NCA for GBR discussion page.

Hi Richard,

I would be glad to receive any request for clarification.
Do you simply wish for further clarification by the TSC/MSC or do you wish to discuss this with the class owners first? If you wish for clarification may I suggest that you contact us directly as suggested in the proceedures explained in the IOMICA Policy on Requests in this section of the forum dated May 19 2004.
As you are no doubt aware, as IOM NCA Secretary for GBR, you may submit requests directly to us for consideration.

Roy

Thank you for responding to my posting.

Firstly, I am not at this point making a request for an interpretation. I am simply asking for some help as to whether the NCA for GBR's advice following the issue of the related formal interpretation is correct.

I think it would be useful for the discussion on this matter to be visble to all members of the IOMICA community.

As a footnote, the IOMICA Policy on Request for Interpretation does not specify how such a document should be submitted. It also provides for the IOMICA TSC to bring a topic forward as an official Request for an Intrepretation.

So for the moment, I would simply ask for a considered opinion concerning what is quite an important current measurement topic within the NCA for GBR.

OK Richard, understood
I will download and reread carefully the relevant documents from your (NCA) website. I believe that Charles (VCTech) is away travelling so I will get assistance from other Exec members where necessary.
However, I would be very grateful if you could alssend me the documents by e-mail in ms Word format or something which I can convert to Word to allow me to add my comments easier and to allow copying of the neccesary parts directly onto the forum. The current .pdf file does not allow this at all and is somewhat incompatible with the way we normally use the forum in this sense.
I want it to be absolutely clear to all reading this that any discussion in this part of the forum is not an official interpretation or official IOMICA advice, it is simply a discussion on what seems to be for the GBR NCA (and possibly others) a confusing interpretation in which the VCMeasuremnts is taking part.

Thanks

Yes, maybe a bit of clarification here will be enough, and maybe not need to bother the TC further.
As an example put out for all...
An owner with a currently certificated IOM purchases a new hull, ready for rigs. The owner submits a new Hull Measurement Form for the new hull, along with a request to include a previously sent in Rig Measurement Form from Hull # ****.
The Class Secretary then Notes in this file that both hulls are certified with the same rig(s).
Does all this sound correct?

Richard,
After reading the GBR IOM NCA document, I strongly suggest you first amend the date (it has afterall not been officially submited to anyone, it has only been allowed to be accesed on the open forum) and submit it directly and officially to VCTech / IOMICA for review and clarification since it was VCTechnical that wrote the original request for interpretation and was also involved in the interpretation along with RSD. I believe this is the only way forward to achieve the correct clarification of this matter.

I am unable to make any personal comment on the document at this stage without my thoughts being percieved as official since I am VC Measurements, and as such I wish to wait for the official GBR IOM NCA request for guidance to respond.

Roy

I have now submitted the Request for Clarification (2005-02-27 IOM NCA GBR RFC.doc) by direct email to VCtechnical.

Regards

Thankyou Richard, I am sure that this is the best way forward.