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Hi Don


Your question may well lead to more clear ISAF rules and in turn to easier to understand IOM class rules. Absolutely no reason for you to say "sorry"!


Best regards

Jan

Hi Bruce

I think the IOM class rules are ok as they are and that an IOMICA request is not needed, but Don Case raised an issue that could help to improve on the ISAF Standard Class Rules and the ISAF Equipment Rules of Sailing.

An issue that I, as chairman of the ISAF ERS Working Party, intend to ...

Hi Don


A few comments:

Class rule C.7.5: " Boom spar curvature measured between points on the top of the spar 10 mm from each end ..."

Class rule A.5.2: "... when a term is printed in “ bold ” the definition in the ERS applies." So there is a sort of a "search engine" built into the class rules ...

Hi Tzvetan,

The latest version I have of the Naviga Racing Rules are in German and from 2002. Having read your message I searched the Internet but did not find any Naviga Racing Rules at all.

I can send you the 2002 rules if you send me a PM (search for my user name and click the "PM" button under ...

Gary Jobson has only been in office since Saturday from what I understand :wink:

An opportunity to build bridges?

We almost lost Appendix E at one stage when one of the biggest sailing federations argued that the Appendix had no relevance to ISAF sailing. The request was withdrawn however after a ...

Gary Jobson Elected President of US SAILING at Annual General Meeting

“We will not make a US SAILING membership mandatory,â€

Val

In my previous post I tried to describe how the ISAF class rules amendment procedure works and the importance of separating the role of a class authority and the role of a class rules authority to achieve best possible class rules.

When the IMYRU was transformed into the IYRU-MYRD (later ...

The Class Rules Amendment Procedure – ISAF Classes


In my post of Sep 28, 2009 9:39 am I described the ISAF decision making process in general. I also mentioned that changes to class rules is an exception as the previous one date for ISAF decisions did not serve the needs of the ISAF classes ...

Henry Thorpe, ISAF wrote: ... but clearly having the ISAF classes representing all disciplines of sailing has definite advantages.

English is not my native language, but for what it is worth I read Henry Thorpe's text in the same way as Barry Fox seems to do.

Regards
Jan

ISAF Divisions

When the International Model Yacht Racing Union was transferred into the IYRU - Model Yacht Racing Division with the goal to integrate radio sailing into IYRU, the organisation got IYRU permission to use “IYRUâ€

Val

No problem

Jan

International Measurers

How ICAs address the IM issue vary from classes hiring professionals to carry out the job to classes having IMs that do it for the love of the class and only ask for any travelling and lodging cost to be covered.

Recruiting of other international race officials is often ...

Hi Roy

As stated in the introduction to the Seahorse Magazine article published at the ISAF web site it was written a few years ago, but if you read Equipment Committee where it is stated Sailing Committee then I think it is probably the simplest and still reasonably accurate description of the ...

I had a look at "About ISAF" at http://www.sailing.org/173.php

Very clear and informative as you say, but I did not find the information you presented in your previous post.

Jan

I keep getting amazed by some of the things I read in this forum about how ISAF is supposed to work, supposed to want, etc.

As to ISAF regulations and requirements, remember that the ISAF Executive dont make the decisions, they only investigate and report back to the committees affected. They in ...

Sixth, and finally, I'm also not exactly sure what you are saying about RSD. I have always argued that while RSD does not currently have properly elected officers, RSD's agreement with IOMICA is still valid. If we directly affiliate with ISAF does that agreement/authority go away? If so, how? If it ...

Roy

So does this then mean that when IOMICA joins ISAF it only needs to comply with those regulations that suits it?
I think that as sailing is an Olympic sport ISAF has to have an agreement with WADA http://www.wada-ama.org/en

My guess is that what you read in ISAF Regulation 21 is a result of ...

Roy

Roy648 wrote:I do not see ... that Reg 21 applies only to Olympic Classes.

I don't think I expressed that Anti-Doping only applies to Olympic classes.

Jan

Hi Roy


As you know I try to answer questions about how ISAF works.

I would also like further clarification on the measurement question, on who will "control" IOMICA at ISAF and particularly how this will effect relations between IOM sailors and various national authorities (like US or Australian ...

Hi Peter

THE CLASS RULES
A.14 RE-CERTIFICATION
A.14.1 A hull may be issued with a new certificate , showing dates of initial and new certification control as applicable:
(a) WHEN A CERTIFICATE BECOMES INVALID UPON CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP and the new owner applies to the certification authority in the ...

An attempt to a relatively short post explaining how ISAF works and how an application for ISAF Class status is processed.

The main ISAF members are the National Sailing Federations (the M ember N ational A uthorities) and the Classes represented by I nternational C lass A ssociations.

There are ...

Fact is R/C sailing is different from other forms of sailing.
And so are all other special disciplines of sailing and this is reflected by the RRS Appendices of which Appendix E is one. As I see it kite surfing could be regarded as the most different discipline.

R/C sailors (to state the obvious ...

Just a short comment on the metaphor of "Buying a house".

Joining a sports organisation is in my view a slightly different undertaking.

The people living in the "house" do not intend to hand it over, but would very much like to see others moving in too. For this purpose they have created some ...

I do not want to get involved in if and when IMOICA should apply for ISAF International Class status for the One Metre class. I would just like to put forward that I think the conditions for affiliation are known at this point. Basically the same as for any class joining ISAF.


Application Fee ...

When glancing through the “status of the 2008 voted rules changesâ€

Hi Roy

The reason is that ISAF-RSD, while seeking a final decision on the ISAF / ISAF-RSD relation, has continued to handle tasks like being class rules authority for the ISAF-RSD classes.

But, as stated in my previous posting, if IOMICA is unhappy with RSD carrying out this task for the One Metre ...

First of all: The ISAF-RSD PC is totally aware that constitutional deadlines have not been meet.

When I accepted to take on the task as PC acting chairman I asked the remaining committee members to stay on until we have had a DM vote on the future of the ISAF-RSD. For several reasons it has taken ...

The current ISAF-RSD agreement with ISAF has right from the start had the status of a temporary one. An agreement which enables RSD, while benefiting from a number of ISAF services, to plan for the integration of radio sailing into the ISAF organisational structure. RSD has currently no formal ways ...

A class that is approved as a national or international class usually have to have its class rules approved by the authority that has given the class its national or international status. In the case of the IOM the authority is ISAF-RSD acting on the behalf of ISAF and expected to apply ISAF ...

I think this issue should not be decided by the technical committee "interpreting" the rules, but by the class members.
I think it is important to understand what an interpretation is. To quote ISAF Regulations: “an interpretation shall only clarify an existing class rule and shall not change ...