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thanks again

Thanks for taking the time to respond. Would be easier in person over a pint.
Your logic maks sense although now we must define what "permanently fixed" means. Are fittings that are screwed into or threaded onto permanent?

Andrew - sorry to bother again but;

A.1.4 DEFINITIONS
Vang - Equipment connected to the boom and used to control the angle between the mast and the boom.

How do we determine what constitutes the "vang" and what constitutes the "vang fitting"? In our own definition we make no distinction between ...

thank you for the clarification

Andrew - I have another question concerning the VISS type vang:
If the current rules stipulate that ...the mast vang fitting and/or gooseneck...they shall not exceed 20 mm in any cross section perpendicular to the axis of rotation.
VISS Vang.JPG
How does this arrangement comply? I did not place a ...

A sensible approach.

Watching the video feed of the current WCR, there were numerous mark contacts that did not seem to have a corresponding penalty turn.

Although RRS E6.5 specifies that protests be delivered to the protest committee within 10 minutes after the last boat finishes, the only ...

Although legal if not specifically excluded, use of video in protest hearings in troublesome to me.

We place Umpires in the control area and prohibit them from using binoculars so they observe the same scenario as the competitors.

We also require witnesses to be competitors in the same heat for ...

Have accumulated a couple of dozen A, B, and C rigs of various ages and conditions over the years but as I said, shipping from ID to VA will be more than they are worth.

In my private capacity I offer the following:

Since IOMICA has not specifically addressed the plate vang issue in the newest edition of the IOM Class Rules, one must refer back to IOM Class Rule F.2.3 which states:

"The function of items shall be limited to what is normally provided by items of ...

One could argue that the FRA proposition comes closer to the goal of limiting the surface area of these dual purpose vangs by establishing both a maximum X and Y dimension.

My questions are:
1) is this issue one that should be decided upon by the IOM owners or by our elected VC Tech?
2) does the ...

If the consensus is that a plate vang should be legal (a notion with which I disagree as it does not comply with F.2.3) then rather than specify a surface area limit which can be difficult to calculate, perhaps specifying maximum vertical and horizontal dimensions could make measurement less ...

Please take note of the fact that my comments are in my personal capacity as an IOM owner, not that of IRSA as I have noted before and is reflected in my signature

This is a complicated issue, particularly when it is being written to include the VISS vang.

An surface area measurement may be difficult for event measurers to calculate at pond side, and may not be accurate if measured while attached to the rig. Do we really need to make this more complicated ...

To Darrin's post - the notion of asking for an interpretation prior to putting a new design feature into the marketplace makes sense and should quell controversy but not all agree.

Recall that two contentious developments in recent IOM history have been the issue of moulded sails and the issue of ...

Thanks for being open to public discussion on this controversial topic. Opening up this forum is a step in the right direction. Social media is nice for photos etc but does not offer much in terms of keeping a substantive discussion in one place.

I fear that unless we clearly define the maximum ...

Thanks for weighing in. It will be nice to see more interaction and communication with the EXEC on this forum - Facebook is nice but actual conversations on a Forum also have benefits.

Merry Christmas - looking forward to 2026!

Not trying to deflect, just trying to make clear to anyone reading this thread that the a vocal proponent of "double duty" vang arrangements that not only control the vertical lift of the boom but also add projected area, is also a major producer and retailer of these vang systems.

This revelation ...

Do you have a vested interest in producing or selling vang/kicking strap/vang fittings that would be negatively affected if the projected area issue was resolved in favor of traditional simple wire/turnbuckle devices?

Thanks for the scathing rebuke - please know that I am not participating on this forum in my role as Chairman of IRSA, but rather simply an concerned IOM owner of 30+ years so kindly leave IRSA out of this.

I have no ties to the manufacture or sale of these components, so I don't have a commercial ...

Thanks for your service.

Please do not misinterpret my message: Now that both the resolutions regarding vang/kicking strap ring gauge measurement have failed, the rules concerning kicking strap/vangs are confusing.

F.2.3 The function of items shall be limited to what is normally provided by ...

Perhaps the new VC Tech could craft an emergency rule change/clarification that would makes vangs/kicking straps do what they were designed to do eg. control the upward movement of the boom and eliminate vangs/kicking straps from acting as unmeasured sail area.

With the defeat of both the CRO and ...

I was able to see the voting results because one of the National Reps sent it to me - why not make the results available to the general membership also?

Now that the CRO vang proposal has been defeated, what happens to the vangs on their boats that are no longer legal?

Back in the Texalium days ...

may we see the summary and results of the AGM recently completed please

still good advice though

What happens when you are a manufacturer and VC Technical? Should that be where IRSA steps in to adjudicate?

in my private capacity, not as Chairman of IRSA

Does anyone know where we can view the list of candidates running for election during this years' AGM?

I have a few old rigs but the shipping would probably exceed their value inasmuch as the sails are worthless. Good source of parts & pieces.

I guess if a "deck" is undefined in the rules then any sort of unusual and unexplained protuberance could be considered legal eg. the bumps on the deck of a VISS

Section F rules concern rigs:

F.2.4 CONSTRUCTION
(a) Fittings and/or control lines may be combined provided their function is not ...

rules must be enforceable and therefore, structures that can only be examined by destructive testing (like the interior of a honeycomb structure) should not be allowed

lets not get into the rule that specifies what grades of aluminum are allowed

opens up a whole new area of creative "deck" components I guess

also opens up a whole new area of creative plate vangs that pass through the appropriate size ring