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by Andrew Crocker
25 Feb 2026, 03:45
Forum: Class Rules
Topic: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion
Replies: 70
Views: 7033
Australia

Re: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion

Hi all, Apologies for the delay in finalising this discussion. Thank you again to all those that have contributed to this discussion. It has been a journey and considerable effort has been made to find a resolution. However, this journey appears to have simply taken us back to where we all started. ...
by Andrew Crocker
19 Feb 2026, 21:45
Forum: Measurement and Measurers
Topic: Certified sailmakers
Replies: 3
Views: 193
Australia

Re: Certified sailmakers

Hi Art, Thanks again for your question. The short answer is that there are no licensed IOM class sailmakers in the terms of Class Rule G.2.2(b). G.2.2(b) was adopted into the IOM Class Rules from the World Sailing Standard Class Rules (SCR) and refers to the World Sailing In-House Equipment Certific...
by Andrew Crocker
15 Feb 2026, 22:14
Forum: Measurement and Measurers
Topic: Certified sailmakers
Replies: 3
Views: 193
Australia

Re: Certified sailmakers

Hi Art - thanks for the question. It is an interesting one.

I will do some follow up on this and post a response once I have it clarified.

Regards

Andrew
VC Technical
by Andrew Crocker
07 Feb 2026, 23:49
Forum: Class Rules
Topic: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion
Replies: 70
Views: 7033
Australia

Re: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion

Thanks to Jeff, Olivier, and Zvonko for the comments. A few people have expressed the view, as Jeff has, that things would be much simpler if the vang style was restricted to the “… simple metal rod with thumb adjustment …”. However, Class Rules F.2.5 and F.6.1 respectively permit that “Construction...
by Andrew Crocker
06 Feb 2026, 08:31
Forum: Class Rules
Topic: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion
Replies: 70
Views: 7033
Australia

Re: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion

Hi Jerry, thanks for this. I assume it did not pass the ring gauge test when that was a part of the rules in 2024? Something else to think about for sure.

Andrew
by Andrew Crocker
05 Feb 2026, 20:56
Forum: Class Rules
Topic: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion
Replies: 70
Views: 7033
Australia

Re: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion

Hi all, It looks as though we have reached the natural end of this discussion and I thank all who have contributed - I have certainly learned a lot. I am now working with the other members of the Technical Committee on an Interpretation that will provide guidance on this topic. According to the IOMI...
by Andrew Crocker
01 Feb 2026, 07:39
Forum: Class Rules
Topic: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion
Replies: 70
Views: 7033
Australia

Re: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion

Thanks Bob. Without wishing to go down this rabbit hole too far - it is not really the central question - but for the purposes of accuracy only. Two options were available for voting at the 2025 AGM: The proposal from the Croatian NCA for the 20 mm ring gauge test The proposal from the French NCA fo...
by Andrew Crocker
31 Jan 2026, 09:24
Forum: Class Rules
Topic: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion
Replies: 70
Views: 7033
Australia

Re: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion

Correction. 2025 20 mm ring gauge YES vote was 58% of votes.
by Andrew Crocker
31 Jan 2026, 04:50
Forum: Class Rules
Topic: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion
Replies: 70
Views: 7033
Australia

Re: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion

Thanks to Gabriel and Bob for their comments. It is very pleasing that the discussion has helped clarify the current state of the rules – so thanks very much for that positive feedback. As to Bob’s suggestion that there be a poll of owners. I am a little surprised at the muted (i.e. no) response to ...
by Andrew Crocker
29 Jan 2026, 04:38
Forum: Class Rules
Topic: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion
Replies: 70
Views: 7033
Australia

Re: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion

Hi Bruce, thanks for the comments, I do feel that we are circling now with arguments simply being restated rather than quantified. Therefore, if the contention is that these “plate” vangs break F.2.3, it would be helpful if you can quantify that statement. For example: What are the dimensions at whi...
by Andrew Crocker
28 Jan 2026, 05:25
Forum: Class Rules
Topic: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion
Replies: 70
Views: 7033
Australia

Re: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion

Thanks to Odd for his contribution - good to hear a new voice. It does appear to be good news that the concept of a defined combined surface area for all fittings that rotate with the boom has a level of consensus. We are left, as I alluded previously, with the task of understanding what that number...
by Andrew Crocker
27 Jan 2026, 22:44
Forum: Class Rules
Topic: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion
Replies: 70
Views: 7033
Australia

Re: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion

Dear all, It is not my role to police individual behaviour but, nevertheless, I do not find attacks on individuals, or the questioning of individual motivations, at all helpful and would ask that they stop - at least in those discussions that I have initiated. As I have noted many times now, the pur...
by Andrew Crocker
27 Jan 2026, 06:38
Forum: Class Rules
Topic: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion
Replies: 70
Views: 7033
Australia

Re: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion

Thanks to Brad, Zvonko, Alberto, Robert, and John for their comments. I particularly want to thank Alberto for making me laugh at the prospect of this all being a “scandal”. I am going to assume that scandalo in Italian has the same meaning as scandal does in English and so includes the sense of mor...
by Andrew Crocker
25 Jan 2026, 07:01
Forum: Class Rules
Topic: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion
Replies: 70
Views: 7033
Australia

Re: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion

Thanks Darin, Alberto, and Bruce for your comments. If I may recapitulate somewhat. I have no doubt that the larger “plate” style vangs are intended to add some advantage. I do not personally know what that advantage is intended to be but, provided they are compliant with the rules, there should be ...
by Andrew Crocker
23 Jan 2026, 22:47
Forum: Class Rules
Topic: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion
Replies: 70
Views: 7033
Australia

Re: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion

Hi Brad, Alberto, and Zvonko, thanks all for your feedback. It is very much appreciated. It would seem that I will need to improve the drafting of the new F.2.4(d) so that its meaning is clearer. I also take on board both Zvonko and Brad’s observation that the area of the boom vang fitting that cove...
by Andrew Crocker
22 Jan 2026, 22:20
Forum: Class Rules
Topic: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion
Replies: 70
Views: 7033
Australia

Re: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion

Dear all, Distilling all the comments received so far, and to begin to bring this to a conclusion, I would like to propose the following: Modify rule F.2.3 to read as follows: o F.2.3 LIMITATIONS (a) The function of items shall be limited to what is normally provided by items of their type. (b) Item...
by Andrew Crocker
22 Jan 2026, 08:24
Forum: Class Rules
Topic: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion
Replies: 70
Views: 7033
Australia

Re: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion

Hi Zvonko, thanks as always for the contribution. If I may reinforce one point that you make (leaving open views on the dimensional aspects) and wax slightly philosophical ... While the IOM Class Rules are "closed class rules" (in accordance with ERS C.2 which only gives two choices - "closed" and "...
by Andrew Crocker
22 Jan 2026, 01:47
Forum: Class Rules
Topic: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion
Replies: 70
Views: 7033
Australia

Re: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion

Hi Art, The question of a vang being in compression did arise at the 2024 Worlds. During pre-event measurement, the vang was checked to ensure that there was "play" in the adjuster such that the boom could move in the downward direction indicating no compression. It was the adjustment mechanism that...
by Andrew Crocker
21 Jan 2026, 22:31
Forum: Class Rules
Topic: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion
Replies: 70
Views: 7033
Australia

Re: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion

Thanks to Brad, Darin, Robert, Bruce, and Zvonko for the contributions to the discussion. Darin's question as who determines "class legal" is answered in the IOMICA Constitution - the short answer being the Executive Committee of IOMICA. The longer answer, of course, involves the Technical Committee...
by Andrew Crocker
21 Jan 2026, 07:27
Forum: Class Rules
Topic: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion
Replies: 70
Views: 7033
Australia

Re: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion

Hi John - thanks for your contribution. As to your central question - yes, I believe that IOMICA (through me) needs to make a clear statement on what is (and is not) conformant with the current class rules - preferably by way of affirming the application of the current rules. The purpose of this dis...
by Andrew Crocker
21 Jan 2026, 04:11
Forum: Class Rules
Topic: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion
Replies: 70
Views: 7033
Australia

Re: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion

Thanks Gabriel, Bruce, and Zvonko for your comments. To Gabriel's point, and recognising the danger in ascribing motivation, the "bent vang" shown in Zvonko's response has the effect of allowing a boom attachment point for the vang that is further aft (further from the mast) than a straight line van...
by Andrew Crocker
15 Jan 2026, 22:28
Forum: Class Rules
Topic: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion
Replies: 70
Views: 7033
Australia

Re: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion

Hi Art, thanks for your thoughts. In referencing the definition of “closed class rules”, you raise a very interesting point.  The IOM Class Rules note at the outset that “… anything not specifically permitted by the class rules is prohibited. Individual rules may require, limit, or permit as necessa...
by Andrew Crocker
14 Jan 2026, 23:51
Forum: Class Rules
Topic: The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion
Replies: 70
Views: 7033
Australia

The size of a vang/kicking strap ... discussion

Dear all, Attached is a discussion paper on the IOM Class Rules as they pertain to the maximum size of a vang/kicking strap. As noted in the paper, it is not an "interpretation" nor the "answer" to the question. Rather, it seeks to establish where we are now, how we got here, and where we might go i...
by Andrew Crocker
01 Jan 2026, 21:13
Forum: Class Rules
Topic: Guidance Request for Rule C.6.3
Replies: 2
Views: 10464
Australia

Re: Guidance Request for Rule C.6.3

Hi Malcom, thanks again for your query and apologies for the delay in responding. The question of foils on rudders is addressed in the Q&A section of this website (https://www.iomclass.org/iom-questions-and-answers/) and, while the text is being revised to incorporate changes to the ERS, the answer ...
by Andrew Crocker
22 Dec 2025, 10:46
Forum: Class Associations and Class Management
Topic: 2025 AGM Meeting Minutes (final results)
Replies: 22
Views: 9413
Australia

Re: 2025 AGM Meeting Minutes (final results)

Hi all, As the new VC Technical, I have been reviewing the Class Rules having regard to the fine work done by my predecessor, the motions that succeeded at the 2025 AGM, and, of course, those that did not. I have also read with some interest the robust discussions in this thread and elsewhere. Howev...
by Andrew Crocker
20 Dec 2025, 23:39
Forum: Class Rules
Topic: Guidance Request for Rule C.6.3
Replies: 2
Views: 10464
Australia

Re: Guidance Request for Rule C.6.3

Hi Malcolm,

Thanks for your query. It is being reviewed and we will get back to you with a perspective shortly.

Regards,

Andrew Crocker
Vice Chair Technical